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Featured upload! Sim Height Slider

by CmarNYC Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 8:52 AM - Updated 29th Jul 2013 at 4:00 PM by CmarNYC
380 Comments / replies (Who?) - 10 Feedback Posts, 15 Thanks Posts
This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
I can't take much credit for this since it's the EA teen morph used for shortness and with the adjustments reversed for tallness, converted to a slider. It was embarrassingly easy to do but I think may be useful so I've submitted it.

The slider adjusts the sim's overall height proportionately for the whole body. There's no hand or foot shaking, and no arm or leg distortions I saw besides the glitches noted below. It works for child through elder. Most animations work well with it. I disabled the slider for toddlers because it causes distortion in the usual sitting animation and they don't do a lot of standing anyway, but you can adjust the value and when the sim ages up he/she will be accordingly taller/shorter than normal. The height should be fully inheritable and will show up when the sim ages to child.



Known problems:
  • As shown in some of the pictures, as with any height slider the kissing animation looks pretty bad.
  • There's some mild distortion of the ankles and feet in short sims when sitting or lying down.
  • Tall sims will have their knees clipping through the covers when sleeping on their backs.



There may be more problem animations that I didn't see during testing.

How to use:
The slider is located in the Appearance tab in CAS, in the Head and Ears general section, Advanced view. The label is "Sim Height by cmar" - to differentiate it from other height sliders.

Installation and removal:
Install like any other mod. Remove by deleting the package.

Compatibility:
This slider should work with any game patch version and should not need updating. If you have a problem with it let me know, otherwise please don't ask every time a patch comes out. It will work with any EA or custom clothing that is correctly constructed.

Please be aware that if you use more than a very few custom sliders you'll need to use a core mod or NRaas Master Controller to increase the number of sliders CAS can use. Some core mods that do this are AwesomeMod, XCAS, and S-Club Privée Slider Hack.

Additional Credits:
Delphy for his slider tools.

Peter and Inge Jones for s3pe.

BloomsBase and haukke4 for indirectly and directly getting me to take another look at this.
Tags: #Height slider

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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cmar_SimHeightSlider.zip | Description: Sim Height slider package 3.8 KB 171,492 29th Jul 2013
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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#51 Old 31st Jul 2013 at 6:33 PM
I noticed a slight kink in the slider while playing last night.

The "watch stars" animation causes them to float, slightly.

Also one of the sims arms would could behind her when she pointed at constellations but that may have been general The Sims 3 wonkiness.

I will, however, testing it again as they were on a dock at the time.
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#52 Old 31st Jul 2013 at 6:50 PM
Excelent

I wish the sims 4 bring different heights
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#53 Old 31st Jul 2013 at 7:39 PM
Why isn't this a picked upload? This is awesome!
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#54 Old 1st Aug 2013 at 6:43 AM
Love this mod! It's absolutely amazing. Thank you Cmar!
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#55 Old 1st Aug 2013 at 10:17 AM
I installed it but it doesn't show in my game
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#56 Old 1st Aug 2013 at 2:41 PM
I don't use many sliders, but I had no idea how much I wanted this before I downloaded and tried. Awesome!!
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#57 Old 1st Aug 2013 at 3:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AmberIndia
I use Jonha's height sliders, where in the knee cutting the bed doesn't happen, but the sim float above the seats in couches and chairs. I am wondering if you can his and yours together to achieve something that'd be like a Win-Win situation? Thank you!


The interactions between the bones that are moved to change the height are really complicated, which is why height sliders have been so difficult to make. Maybe someday I can try to figure out what causes the floating and so on.

@Sandrate: Are you sure you're looking in the right place? Do other mods work in your game?

Please do not PM me with mod, tutorial, or general modding questions or problems; post them in the thread for the mod or tutorial or post them in the appropriate forum.

Visit my blogs for other Sims 3 content:
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Offline Sims - adult Sims 3 mods
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#58 Old 1st Aug 2013 at 9:22 PM
This is so AWESOME!!! Thank you so much for this, I LOVE IT!!!
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#59 Old 2nd Aug 2013 at 7:10 AM
we've all been waiting for this!!! thank you!
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#60 Old 2nd Aug 2013 at 10:43 AM
I am so thrilled with this mod! I have always felt so uncomfortable with everyone being the same height. It totally freaks me out. Thank you!
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#61 Old 2nd Aug 2013 at 3:56 PM
Thanks a ole LOT "Cmar"!

I use height sliders extensively in my game, Tutchone women from "Southern Yukon" are generally shorter,
I had been using Bloom's unreleased height slider for years but i keep getting double jointed children's (with two skeleton), I'm glad to see you are still actively making new toys for us ...
Thanks!
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#62 Old 2nd Aug 2013 at 11:40 PM
I'm having so much fun with your mod!! It adds so much depth to my game. I can't thank you enough for creating it!
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#63 Old 5th Aug 2013 at 11:26 AM
Neat! Using a default EA morph as a base sounds a lot like what I was trying to do for one of my own sliders, but I was never able to make my own conversion since I couldn't find the right EA file. I'm curious, where'd you find yours?

Another question: are these values derived exactly from EA? If so, this mod could open a lot of doors for modding other parts of the body.

Great job as always!
Ms. Byte
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#64 Old 5th Aug 2013 at 12:45 PM
I found the teen morph quite some time ago - think I just stumbled across it in the files while looking for something else. If you're looking for a specific morph you just have to search for it under every possible name you can think of, or sort by resource type and look through the entire list.

Yes, the values are the unchanged EA values.

Please do not PM me with mod, tutorial, or general modding questions or problems; post them in the thread for the mod or tutorial or post them in the appropriate forum.

Visit my blogs for other Sims 3 content:
Online Sims - general Sims 3 mods
Offline Sims - adult Sims 3 mods
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#65 Old 5th Aug 2013 at 1:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CmarNYC
I found the teen morph quite some time ago - think I just stumbled across it in the files while looking for something else. If you're looking for a specific morph you just have to search for it under every possible name you can think of, or sort by resource type and look through the entire list.

Yes, the values are the unchanged EA values.


Cool! I'm checking out the quaternion values right now, and they actually look really promising. I think that you might have unintentionally made a rosetta stone of some sort for the rest of the simming community, although it's still early to say what exactly these values can do or be used for. I just experimented with the calf quaternion values, and aside from the usual glitchiness (I didn't adjust the feet to counteract the calf scaling), I couldn't see any sign of foot rotation.

I'm definitely hoping for the best
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#66 Old 5th Aug 2013 at 9:03 PM
You say you found the teen morph - would you mind sharing where the age morphs are found? I'm crazy about height sliders and the like, so I want to mess about with this stuff once I get a new computer, and maybe release a mod if I come up with anything new.

P.S. You're one of my favourite creators, and I would like to take a moment to thank you for all that you've done to make this game playable.
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#67 Old 5th Aug 2013 at 11:38 PM
Thanks and you're welcome!

The teen morph is the only age-related morph I'm aware of, unfortunately. It's called modifierBodyTeen in FullBuild0.

Please do not PM me with mod, tutorial, or general modding questions or problems; post them in the thread for the mod or tutorial or post them in the appropriate forum.

Visit my blogs for other Sims 3 content:
Online Sims - general Sims 3 mods
Offline Sims - adult Sims 3 mods
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#68 Old 6th Aug 2013 at 8:02 AM
Thanks for the info.
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#69 Old 6th Aug 2013 at 4:34 PM
My personal opinion: If EA claims they can't do something, they actually can but don't want to try, especially if the mod is possible.
This is awesome, I can finally make a proper self sim (although I'll have to wait until I replace my piece of crap laptop first, hopefully with a non-piece of crap desktop) And by proper self sim, I mean a really really short sim. I'm about the height of some 12 year olds. Scratch that, I'm the height of most 12 year olds.
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#70 Old 7th Aug 2013 at 7:27 AM
Compatible?
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Originally Posted by JT`
It has indeed been done already! Consort's Grow -- except for that nutritional stuff. Fantastic idea, although I would see every town having an army of giant supermen since it's nearly impossible not to keep your family properly fed in this game. ;-)

It uses an older height slider (which causes head size distortion) paired with a head height slider to correct that distortion, so technically this new slider is more technically advanced and hopefully Consort will either adopt it or build in support for it, but in the meantime Grow is very, very functional and quite awesome: by far my favourite TS3 mod. If I can just get over my annoyance at EA to get back to playing again, anyway.


Do you know if these two height mods are compatible? i would like to have sims different heights at different ages, but I would also like sims genetics to play a part in if they are shorter full grown or taller
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#71 Old 7th Aug 2013 at 7:31 AM
Me too
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Originally Posted by CmarNYC
How many children have you tested this on? All sliders should be inherited equally by boys and girls but with a 50-50 chance of inheriting from the father or mother. Possibly all your boys happened to inherit from the father. I'll test this when I have time. It's possible some sliders only inherit to the same gender depending on the slider construction, I guess.

The way I understand Sims 3 inheritance, the child inherits each slider value from either the father or mother without blending. You'd need a core mod to change that. This is just a slider, it can't modify game behavior.


Oh that is interesting. I have been having the same issues. The height is only past down to the same gender child (mom passes it to daughters, dad passes it to sons).

I will keep playing and keep trying

Its really awesome either way thanks!
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#72 Old 7th Aug 2013 at 9:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shareallicu3
Oh that is interesting. I have been having the same issues. The height is only past down to the same gender child (mom passes it to daughters, dad passes it to sons).

I will keep playing and keep trying

Its really awesome either way thanks!


The way the slider is made, same-gender inheritance kind of makes sense. I'll work on a new version to fix that.

Please do not PM me with mod, tutorial, or general modding questions or problems; post them in the thread for the mod or tutorial or post them in the appropriate forum.

Visit my blogs for other Sims 3 content:
Online Sims - general Sims 3 mods
Offline Sims - adult Sims 3 mods
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#73 Old 9th Aug 2013 at 7:54 PM
I cannot wait to try this mod. As soon as I saw the creator name I knew it would be a good one! I had been looking for a good height mod, but was afraid to try the others because of the issues I heard about. Btw, I am not worried at all about the fact that only same gender inherits it. I can work with that.
This absolutely needs to be a showcase item!!
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#74 Old 9th Aug 2013 at 8:05 PM
I cannot wait to try this mod. As soon as I saw the creator name I knew it would be a good one! I had been looking for a good height mod, but was afraid to try the others because of the issues I heard about. Btw, I am not worried at all about the fact that only same gender inherits it. I can work with that.
This absolutely needs to be a showcase item!!
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#75 Old 9th Aug 2013 at 8:19 PM
THANK YOU. I've got several characters I'm trying to create ingame, and their heights are varied quite a bit. I needed this, thank you so much!!!!!
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